Well done Derek for going back and reading what Lloyd wrote.
I too went back and re-read parts of his book - but could not be bothered to extract quotes in the way you have - well done for that.

Although I am very interesting in the whole aspect of where songs came from, etc., and I should also add - I too have not read Steve's book (but I know the man) - However I am increasingly bored with the intransigence of certain correspondents.

No one is stopping them having their views - just don't keep telling us we are wrong, or that we don't care. Let us just agree to disagree and then keep singing the songs we love - whether or not they fit someones definition of a bloody folk song!

And support your local "Folk" song clubs.........

Tim Radford