The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #163234   Message #3894485
Posted By: punkfolkrocker
18-Dec-17 - 07:28 AM
Thread Name: BS: Damian Green
Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
Jim - days, even weeks ago, I already made a distinction in this thread between good 'porn' and bad dehumanising exploitative 'porn' ..

If you remember I teasingly /cheekily compared it to the difference between amateur folk done purely for love of sharing the pursuit,
and cynical corporate commercial folk done purely for profit...

I am 10 years younger than you and Steve -
which is a crucial difference because radical feminism was already firmly in place
in colleges and art & media when my age group was in our teens in the late 1970s.
My sub generation of lefty progressive men, now in our late 50s grew up with feminism as an inescapable formative influence
on our attitudes, actions, and personalities.
It was not as much a challenge for us as it was for older lefty men to take on board, learn, and adapt to.

It is ingrained in my core - for good or bad..

Jim, I already know all you are saying on the subject, it was a prevailing authodoxy for a couple of decades,
but newer serious reappraisals and perspectives of those older tenets now exist to be considered.

Even feminists can and do enjoy a relaxing wank to nudey imagery and movies...

Expressions of sexuality should be apolitical, across gender and class.

I remind you again, it is too crude and unhelpfully puritanical
to condemn all 'porn' as bad, and all viewers of 'porn' therefore must be bad people..

There are other more useful sticks for us to thrash and humiliate tories with...