not really an anti brexit argument, Steve. There are powerful arguments, but that ain't one.

yes iains - loony left have a lot to answer for. so does laissez faire right wing half understood economic theories.

somewhere in the middle lies common sense, much maligned pragmatism. Thatcher and every tory government since has stuck to the right wing gospel that fuck all needs doing except seeing the market forces have free rein and that the rich pay no taxes.

i can see that you and Stanron probably go along with that. Terrifying you've both got the vote really...