The Hearme thing again!!!! Hearme was never "secure" many people came in who were not Mudcatters. I would like to point out that anyone reading the threads in Mudcat now has the password to the room and can come in whenever its open.... Security is a figment of your imagination people, it doesnt exist! The admin function is there to protect you from annoying people. They can be,and are, removed or silenced in a flash which could not be done in Hearme. That only happens if you inform the room admin you are being annoyed. A closed room means no-one will invite new people to join in and learn to enjoy the music; which is a stupid way to protect yourselves from potential future members. Yours, Aye. Dave