i believe the victims claim the barros witnessed the abuse..as was right there. i have no idea if that is true or they made a story up. however. it stinks to high heaven and large portions of at least one country believe it is true. there was no need to promote him, given the fervor with which parishioners protested at the time. now they have firebombed 9 churches i believe.

and back to pell. what a disgrace to the world. not just the church. it is public knowledge how he treated the victims of abuse and their families and the pope pulls him up to the vatican amid huge outcries from australia. again, no need, unless to protect him from the law.

this pope is partially good and the rest absolutely horrid. he seems to have no sense of responsibility..that he inherited this mess and he is the one who has to tackle it or he should not have taken it on. we are rotten to the core and the world knows it and no amount of pussyfooting or insulting the victims is going to change that. only honesty will and we are not an honest church.