Unless I am blocking what I read over here,
nobody posted anything horribly combative in this particular thread,
which is . . . an accomplishment, negative in a sense, but still an accomplishment.   

And started by Skarpi, bless his cotton socks.

I wasn't around when this thread began, or went to sleep.
Maybe I will catch flack for posting to it.

Here's one way of easing into the question -
with another question.
Who was it from whom I steal this quote:

"a plant does not have to believe in photosynthesis
in order to turn green"?