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Thread #163483   Message #3902892
Posted By: Joe Offer
30-Jan-18 - 04:48 PM
Thread Name: BS: Trump Station in Old Jerusalem
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Station in Old Jerusalem
Well, let's get back to something of substance. I wanted to reply to this post from above:

Thread #163483   Message #3901716
Posted By: bobad
25-Jan-18 - 12:52 PM
Thread Name: BS: Trump Station in Old Jerusalem
Subject: RE: BS: Trump Station in Old Jerusalem

The myth of an indigenous "Palestinian" population that had it's land stolen from them by the Jews is simply that - a myth. In fact this CENSUS done by a Dutchman, Hadriani Relandi in 1695 finds virtually no Arab presence whatsoever in Palestine.

The truth of the matter is that the vast, overwhelming majority of Arabs living in Palestine arrived there between 1831 and 1947 brought in by the colonizers. The earlier ones came from Egypt and Sudan after the conquest of the Land of Israel by Egypt?s Mohammed Ali (1831-1840).

Libyan migrants settled in Gedera, south of Tel Aviv. Algerian refugees escaped the French conquest of 1830 and settled in Safed alongside Syrians and Jordanian Bedouins in Tiberias. Circassian refugees, fleeing Russian oppression (1878), and Moslems from Bosnia, Turkmenistan, and Yemen (1908), further diversified the Arab demography west of the Jordan River.

Arab migrant workers were imported by the Ottoman Empire, and then by the British Mandate, to work in major civilian and military infrastructure projects. Legal and illegal Arab migrants were also attracted by economic growth, which was generated by the Jewish community beginning in 1882. They came from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, North Africa, Bosnia, India, Afghanistan, etc. Britain enticed Arab immigration and blocked Jewish immigration.

I am disappointed to find someone like Joe, who professes to being a good Christian, perpetuating this demonizing myth, something which I would expect from some of our other, let's say, ideologically driven members.

For crissake just take a look at this MAP. Virtually all the green except for the Arabian peninsula was taken from the indigenous peoples by force and is maintained as such to this day. That tiny red speck is Israel. Why so many today begrudge a relative handful of people, a people who have been persecuted throughout history, this tiny piece of land for a homeland is beyond my comprehension. I can only attribute it to one thing - hatred.


That's all well and good, Bobad, but this photo (click) shows two very obvious pieces of evidence that contradict what you have to say:Kinda blows your "Jews legitimately purchased unoccupied territory" all to smithereens, doesn't it?

And Bobad, those were real bulldozers that destroyed the homes where Palestinians had lived for generations, so that they could build their fancy Jewish condominium "settlements." That was the paragon of cruelty, and the whole world is outraged by those huge, fancy, military-guarded "settlements." I saw those settlements with my own eyes - they are beautiful, but they are an outrage.

-Joe-