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Thread #162855   Message #3903748
Posted By: Steve Shaw
04-Feb-18 - 07:21 AM
Thread Name: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
This is from a comment in the Guardian under an article by Nick Cohen ("Rest assured, when Brexit bombs it won't be the fault of the Tory right") by someone calling themselves Driscoll:

...The preparatory work for "scapegoating" has been underway since early 2017 by Brexiteers...the people in the frame are judges;pro remain MPs in all parties; private individuals who are pro-Remain and have by their actions derailed the smooth hard Brexit and desired lack of parliamentary involvement in both triggering Article 50 initially and negotiations desired by Brexiteers in the Tory party; the media especially the BBC and now the civil service and Treasury. Finally not forgetting Corbyn,Clegg,Sturgeon et al and the LibDEms,Labour and SNP Apparently the establishment and anybody that disagrees with their view generally in fact such is the paranoia of the Brexiteers over a sell out of Brexit which of course if they were in charge would be as smooth as anything,simple, having your cake and eating it and of course a munificent bounty of cash for the NHS.

In the 1920's and 1930's the nazis claimed that Germany was stabbed in the back by people in Germany (called "November Criminals" in all of Goebbels propaganda) by refusing the army Generals their support to wage successful war against the allies when it was the Generals that pleaded with the government to sue for an armistice but in nazi-speak victory was snatched from the Generals hands by traitorous people back home in Germany of course...


Here's a section of tbe Cohen article that the above was a reaction to:

The Right does not want British institutions to take back control from the EU. It wants to take control of British institutions. Understand its raging ambition and you will understand why self-proclaimed Conservatives are so anxious to destroy.

Patriots who shout about their love of country daily announce their hatred of every British principle that might constrain them. The rule of law and sovereignty of parliament? The Mail echoed every totalitarian movement since the Jacobins and denounced judges as "enemies of the people" for ruling that Brexit couldn't be triggered without the approval of parliament. Academic freedom? A government whip demanded universities tell him what lecturers were teaching about Brexit. The right of MPs to follow their conscience? Liberal Tories received death threats after the Telegraph called them "mutineers" for not obeying orders and thinking for themselves. Now the civil service is having its ethics besmirched and neutrality threatened. Jacob Rees-Mogg and Steve Baker accused it of plotting to undermine Brexit by producing needlessly pessimistic forecasts. The lie was so demonstrably false even Baker had to apologise. Tellingly, Rees-Mogg did not. Unnervingly, he may be our next prime minister.

You do not have to know much history to recognise a stab-in-the-back myth in the making. German militarists and fascists explained away defeat in the First World War with the dolchstosslegende: the German armies had not been defeated by their enemies in France but by communists, Jews and pacifists at home. So Brexit will not be defeated because the Tory right sold the British a fantasy but because judges, civil servants, saboteurs and mutineers subverted a glorious victory.


We need to be very vigilant.