No need to go round the arguments of the referendum numbers again. It just gives everyone an excuse to avoid looking at the current news

And in the interests of fairness, the same applies to you, Steve. I deliberately left 15 minutes after Iains' post to give him a chance to address something in the current news, but he chose not to. Now it looks like we are heading off a well worn path where we all know each others' arguments and counter arguments.