The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #163609   Message #3905603
Posted By: Steve Shaw
14-Feb-18 - 05:44 AM
Thread Name: BS: Charities and Oxfam
Subject: RE: BS: Charities and Oxfam
You see, Iains, because your source is the lamentable Daily Mail, you can't tell the difference between opportunistic attacks, the focus of my criticism, and responsible investigative journalism, which, in many regards, would actually help to temper the heat and smoke coming from your side and enable us to take a measured view of whatever wrongdoings have been going on. I should think everyone bar you can see that, so I'll leave it there. And do grow up.

Nigel, being part of a European superstate would make me very miserable. Tabloid-thinking has dictated to you that, just because one or two EU bigwigs have voiced that aspiration, or what you think is something like it, it's in danger of happening. Well it isn't and it never was. Believe it or not, the EU consists of a very large number of states who, just like us, are fiercely jealous of their national identities and sovereignty. Each and every one of them has its own red lines. To take one example, while we are members there can never be an EU army. Why? Because we have a veto and we will never allow it to happen. Ironically, because of your superstate nonsense talk and the fear of foreigners generated by the leave side, we will now increase the likelihood of it happening. In my opinion that would be a very undesirable thing and a perfect example of how we will actually have lost control, not taken it back.