Please note: This is my final post on this thread. Jon and I opened Paltalk and ran the room for some time. Despite complaints and people who constantly cajoaled and threatened to leave and whined, the room was largely popular with everyone who came in, and enjoyed the singing and playing. I am not against anyone starting an alternate room, I encourage you to do so for all your personal needs. Song Circle is now broken up into different rooms, and which would you have me open? As an admin I do not care to have my loyalty split and divided this way. There was nothing wrong with the room we ran. If you want to split up and divide into groups I will not be responsible for admining the rooms with such an atmosphere prevailing. Sorry people I am enjoying myself on Paltalk hope you all work things out to your satisfaction. Yours, Aye. Dave