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Thread #162855   Message #3913118
Posted By: Nigel Parsons
25-Mar-18 - 07:48 PM
Thread Name: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 18 - 12:59 PM

The whole point of elections is that the wishes of the minority bloc of voters can be "disregarded." That's how it works. I just gave you a little list of the kinds of things that governments do, or don't do, which probably go against the wishes of the majority. When's the last time you "wished" that the tax on petrol, or your council tax, would go up? We elect governments to run the country in the general interest, not kowtow to the whims of the populace which would often be predicated on self-interest or prejudice. In the case of the referendum the wishes of sixteen million voters have been "disregarded." And false equivalence indeed, Keith. The decision to hold the referendum was a dereliction of the duties of an elected parliament. It was a terrible decision which effectively held hundreds of MPs hostage. Had they voted against they'd have been toast. It put the future of the country in the hands of an uninformed electorate. And the disgraceful referendum campaign did nothing to inform them. The opposite, in fact. Brainless slogans aimed at the feeble-minded and gullible ruled the roost.


No.
The whole point was that elections were giving us the choice between a Conservative party, and a Labour party. Both of which wished to remain part of the EU.
UKIP were making gains in voting, and the Conservatives (risking being split on the subject) gave the public a vote on whether to leave the EU.
Although the vote didn't go the way they expected, they are now committed to leaving the EU.
The electorate (by majority vote) have now made their wishes clear.
No matter how you attempt to re-write the history of the vote, we have voted to leave the EU.

Arguing that we should remain part of the EU is going against the wishes of the majority of the voting UK electorate.

The wishes of 16 million voters have NOT been disregarded, but they do not have the same force of opinion as the wishes of 17 million voters who voted to leave!

The electorate was not 'uninformed'. The facts were available to everyone. The fact that you came to one decision does not negate the decision that I, and others, came to.

This was not a matter of looking at the views of a 'minority bloc'. Everyone had a say, and the result was clear cut. When (if ever) will you accept that this was democracy?