Not quite true Katcina, the idea came from the original Hearme setup which was first suggested buy Jim (JAB) and I got involved to help sort out some technical problems. I hosted the room on my web space for some time and although I had intended handing over at some point, I got out after a big row involving whether to use a separate room or a private room for functions that excluded certain members for some reason or other (little changes round here) and Aine took over.

Aine's room worked well for some time but the room eventually became unstable and a few of us became concerned about the future of Hearme and it was then that I decided to come back in and help set up a replacement room. After some investigation I felt that PalTalk provided the best solution and proposed a trial.

It was then that Dave (mainly others helped to) came in and we tried to make something workable. We also saw the advantages PalTalk had and that we could make a room open for all and the room became a great success.

In that time, I have had to put up wih numerous complaints about how much better Hearme was as a package (even though Paltalk is technically superior and offers admin facilities) and other winges such as he open vs closed room and quite frankly I am sick of it.

I am sure that Nynia opened the Snug with the best of intentions but it re-opened the open vs closed debate with the we want one or other but not both and the end peace making move has been to alternate between open and closed so is currently at least 1/2 way away from our original intentions with the chance that it might go fully that way.

I have seen the same thing happen in folk clubs and sessions that I have started, battle though the early stages, get something good going and then the wingers who have done fuck all to help want a hand in and change things to work their way.

This whole business makes me sick and I feel I have every rights to be mad. Next time people want help or direction in setting something up, they can fuck off.

Jon