"trying to summarise Irish Independence in one sentence gives rise to the absolute nonsense above."
If you stopped behaving as if you were an old member of this site and that you knew everything about everything you would be aware that this fact has long been established as such long ago here, with documented evidence adn official statements
Rather than turning this to be about Irish independence, I suggest you trawl though the previous discussions amd make your arrogant =claims on the basis of having actually read something
The ame with your equally uninformed claims of the political uses the Famine.
We really have been there and one that - some of us have spent a lifetime's interest in it.
Collins said no such thing, by the way - the Treaty was as much an uncomfortable compromise for the Free Staters as itt was totally unacceptable for the Republicans
Try a book before you accuse somebody of "absolute nonsense" - it really does work wonders
Jim Carroll