I had a look at the site mentioned in the report Shanmbles gave us, for public consultation - www.lga.gov.uk/lga/publicprotection/index.htm

It looks like we missed the boat on that stage of the consultation - I wonder is anyone in the folk world got to get their two-pennyworth in? Still, there's still time to get in, I'd imagine, since I doubt if it's yet gone through the legislative process.

Anyway, I'm going to start working through the various documents we've had on the thread, and mentioned on links etc, and I hope other people will as well. Then, when everyone's a bit clearer about the changes we need, and than the changes we don't want, we can maybe try and get a wider set of people involved.

I agree with Shambles that for licensees to try to fight this one through the courts isn't a wise or a practical proposition. But there are other ways of tackling it.