Okay, Eliza/Senoufou could do with a little bit more respect here.

I don't know about you,
but I was greatly impressed with the old BS thread some time back
that had posts about prison visiting.
I'm not saying that was the thread title, more like creep probably;
but there were numerous posts, regardless,
about the experience of going into the prisons,
visiting with the inmates,
and listening to their families as well.

Eliza/Senoufou need not trot out all her bona-fides and curricula vita
every time she volunteers an observation or opinion, surely.

I have been a guest of prison chaplains and prison volunteers,
inside the very spot where Malcolm Little had his conversion experience
and became Malcolm X, right here in Massachusetts.
All that says, regarding me, is that I know how unqualified I am
next to these volunteers and ministers.

Listening to Eliza being belittled and dismissed
just because she speaks from experience and does not mince words,
is for me much like hearing someone challenge
Charles Adams (deceased), Deacon Gerard P. Rooney (never met him, the inmates think he was a saint),
the Dominican Sisters of Bethany (those who remain in the United States
did so at the cost of leaving their congregation,
which returned to Europe and is dying out).
Not to mention le Bienheureux Pere Marie-Jean-Joseph Lataste OP.

It is all very well to pose challenges and ask questions,
and yet people who know whereof they speak merit respect
when they volunteer their observations.
Sorry, but these people -- and Eliza/Senoufou -- get more respect from me
than do the debaters on the defensive.