"Where is your condemnation of Keith's open antisemitism if your concern is for the Jewish People you've been asked for it often enough
"
I have seen no such anti-Semitism on the part of Keith- But I have on the part of one Jim Carroll, and noted it many times.



"You are the one who links the Jewish People to ethnic cleansing and teh shooting down of protesters - not me
"
No, YOU are the one who has stated that- I have not done so- But IMO YOU have done so many times.


"BTW, how about that Far-Left support of the Nazis by Ireland?
How about it - have you ever seen me support the IRA?"

YOU have stated that I support Nazis- YET I CHALLENGE YOU to find anywhere where I have done so?
Not the IRA, but the far left on many occasions. The post was that the Far Left supported Nazis- , you have demonstrated a Left bias in most if not all of your remarks- So by YOUR standards, you are tarred by the same brush of the worst of those Leftists, regardless of any stated support- YOU have established this as the standard YOU apply, so it is only fair to apply it to you as well.




"Feel free to prove me wrong, of course"

I believe that I have done so, many times and here as well.



"The "far left" in my opinion never supported fascism of any kind - I wouldn't know"

Try learning to read OTHER peoples posts instead of telling everyone else what YOU imagine they think or support ( If I have done so here about YOU, I am just applying the standards YOU use on others to you, a fair debating tactic.)
"Sinn Fein / IRA, being hard leftists, like to call their opponents "fascists". And indeed there is some truth in it, as regards the hard-core loyalists at least. But SF-IRA are not the people to criticise.

The IRA supported the Nazis in WW2 (the real ones, not just rhetorical ones). They ran safe houses for Nazi spies, aided Nazi intelligence, and even helped Nazi bombers. They planned to bring about a Nazi German invasion of Ireland, and would no doubt have been installed as a quisling government had Germany occupied Ireland. "



"I am not a supporter of the "far left" (feel free to show where I am)"

That is NOT what your posts indicate. You defend the Left at all times, and regard Stalin as a friend to all starving Ukrainians!


"Your definition of the term appears to be anybody to the left of Thatcher, Tebbit or Ian Paisley"

In the US, Bernnie is Far Laft- I am actualy a Centrist ( Politically conservative, socially liberal, close to Libertarian)
YOUR definition of anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton is that they are Nazis.



"I have a lifelong interest in politics but I have no connection with any organisation"

That is a wonderful thing- a pity you cannot allow others to have the same privileges you are claiming. MY opinions are my own. Yet you make STATEMENTS about me, made up in your tiny little mind, as if they were facts.



"My concern is for the treatment of human beings (mainly those with no connection in politics)"

Then I think you do a piss-poor job in trying to find consensus by your declaring that any who disagree withYOU are NOT concerned as well.




"If I ever joined anything it would probably ne a humanitarian group"

And would they teach you that aggressive attacks on others is not the best way to get people to even listen to you?



"THis is little more than mudslinging - do you actually have any evidence that I hold the view you are suggesting I do"

Yes. your posts are mainly that- on occasion, you bring up information I was unaware of ( for which I thANK YOU)- but IT IS BURIED IS SO MUCH BILE AND SHIT IT IS HARD TO FIND.



"It is about as accurate and unsubstantiated as my "antisemitism" - which you have yet to produce a scrap of evidence for"

BY THE STANDARDS YOU HAVE APPLIED TO OTHERS I HAVE PROVEN IT MANY TIMES OVER.



"We are now doing Iain's job for him by turning this thread, which has nothing to do with any of this garbage, into a personal slanging match
"
YOU are the one who never discusses facts, but makes statements about others that are false, and then argue from them.



"Produce evedence of your accusations or withdraw them - but do it somewhere else and allow this thread take its own course"

YOU have been given the proof many times, but refuse to even look at it- you just attack anyone who presents what YOU do not want to look at, instead of debating the facts.



"Put up or shut up"

I have put up- now will you SHUT UP, or at least stop the personnel attacks and presumptions that YOU are God Almighty, and know what everyone else is and/or should be thinking? Your understanding of other's beliefs, and reasons for their views is sadly lacking.


Bruce