Thinking aloud...

"hmmmm... why start this thread...???

Well if it is within the capabilities of some mudcatters to make minimal - only absolutely essential references - to the 'R' and 'I' words,
then this thread could serve a 'useful' and topical purpose...???"

As has been mentioned, there is already a thread in existence devoted to nothing but robust discussion of the 'R' word....!!!

This thread could / should be about a more specific adjunct of the 'R'/'I' issues...
Concentrating on UK politicians ideally...

But what happens here next is up to whoever fancies a friendly debate...