If we can't take arguments to what we believe their logical directions, I'm gone from here - I see no point in hanging around
I'm saddened that Dave (of all people) chose to close the thread
I don't like the nastiness of some of the arguments we have become involved in, but on the other hand, anodyne back-slapping sessions are really not my thing
I have always read and considered what others have to say and have offered detailed argument when I was able - I have become thoroughly sickened at the dishonest, and often deeply personally insulting bhehavior of some who appear to want only to home with gold cup under their arm rather than exchange information - we've seen the long scoops of insulting behavior of posters incapable of posting intelligently - offering only bullying and extremely childish abuse -
Life really is too short
Sadly
Jim Carroll