I don't mind a bit of thread drift here and there at all, Jim. I am up for most of it. But when it becomes obvious that the thread is being deliberately derailed to create a platform for someone else's prejudices it is about time to put a stop to it. There is not much chance of the management censuring or banning anyone for all but the most heinous actions. If you want to get someone reprimanded or ejected, take it up with the moderation team. If you can make a strong enough case I am sure they will be sympathetic. In the meanwhile I am doing the best I can by ignoring the excesses of some posters and trying to remove their platform when possible in the best way I can. Please feel free to try your way.

OK. More serious stuff. this is PFRs thread and he is, understandably, most dis-chuffed about his pies and pasties being removed. So, back to the real point.

Best meat and potato pie - Carrs of Bolton
Best pork pie - Chamleys of Steeton
Best will do at a pinch and can be got in a supermarket - Hollands meat pies.

Over to you...