Donual,

You have missed the entire point of what I have put out here.


1. IMO, the laws being proposed, while sounding wonderful, do NOTHING to reduce the illegal killings, and from what I have posted, the actual number of illegal killings will INCREASE if such laws are put in place.

2. The wounds are NOT explosive- the impact of a .223 rifle round leaves a baseball size wound- a .30 carbine leaves a larger one, and a .45 pistol will blow out an exit crater the size of a basketball. So "hand guns" are no cure for the problem- The cure is to have ENFORCEABLE and EFFECTIVE laws to control ILLEGAL access to ANY weapons. The laws proposed by the students DO NOT DO THAT.


3. "As long as people do not make mistakes you can ask good guys with a gun to cover your ass."

And they DID make mistakes, and how many kids died in that school shooting?


Warren v. District of Columbia is one of the leading cases of this type. Two women were upstairs in a townhouse when they heard their roommate, a third woman, being attacked downstairs by intruders. They phoned the police several times and were assured that officers were on the way. After about 30 minutes, when their roommate's screams had stopped, they assumed the police had finally arrived. When the two women went downstairs they saw that in fact the police never came, but the intruders were still there. As the Warren court graphically states in the opinion: "For the next fourteen hours the women were held captive, raped, robbed, beaten, forced to commit sexual acts upon each other, and made to submit to the sexual demands of their attackers."

The three women sued the District of Columbia for failing to protect them, but D.C.'s highest court exonerated the District and its police, saying that it is a "fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." There are many similar cases with results to the same effect.




I will end this with the following: When you are in a situation where the mere fact of YOU being armed might have saved someone, I hope you remember supporting being disarmed, and disarming those who might have helped you.