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Thread #164041 Message #3922253
Posted By: Jim Carroll
05-May-18 - 04:45 AM
Thread Name: BS: Israel's Sharpville
Subject: RE: BS: Israel's Sharpville
"Remarkable firsthand footage" From an unknown source with an anonymous commentator You can denigrate the victims all you like, just as the Aparthied regime justified the slaughter of Sharpville and Sueto, but it alters not one iota the fact that the Israeli regime are carrying out yet another massacre of Palestinians - a human rights crime There is no justification for that, even if the Palestinians are fighting back, as they are fully entitled to do The nonsensical excuse of "defence" has been used throughout history by despots and mass-murdered - threats to wipe out Israel by a poorly-armed state with no standing army is comparable with the victim of bullying shaking their fist from a distance You are making this thread a propaganda exercise for the mass murder of unarmed people - please do not do so. If you have a rational argument for what is happening, put it up, otherwise, butt out, You are becoming a 'Joseph Goebbells' for the same type of actions that sent six million Jews to their deaths - that is no way to represent The Jewish People I asked for a discussion on what is happening in at this massacre - anybody can scoop up anonymous propaganda clips This is an eye-wtiness account from a survivor of a far larger massacre facilitated by Israel from Robert Fisk's 'The Great War for Civilisation' (p. 1022) - if you want to just swap pieces denigrating one side or the other, there are thirty pages on Sabra Shatila alone an 1,364 pages on the entire Israeli/Palestinian conflict You want to swap comparisons of animalistic behavior - how long have you got?
From time to time, I noted, a few were taken away. They were put into Israeli army trucks or jeeps or Phalangist vehicles - for further ‘interro¬gation’. Nor did I doubt this. A few hundred metres away, up to 600 massacre victims of the Sabra and Chatila Palestinian refugee camps rotted in the sun, the stench of decomposition drifting over the prisoners and their captors alike. It was suffocatingly hot. Loren Jenkins of The Washington Post, Paul Eedle of Reuters and I had only got into the cells because the Israelis assumed - given our Western appearance - that we must have been members of Shin Beth. Many of the prisoners had their heads bowed. Arab prisoners usually adopted this pose of humiliation. But Israel’s Phal¬angist militiamen had been withdrawn from the camps, their slaughter over, and at least the Israeli army was now in charge. So what did these men have to fear? Looking back - and listening to Sana Sersawi today - I shudder now at our innocence. My notes of the time ... contain some ominous clues. We found a Lebanese employee of Reuters, Abdullah Mattar, among the prisoners and obtained his release, Paul leading him away with his arm around the man’s shoulders. ‘They take us away, one by one, for interroga¬tion,’ one of the prisoners muttered to me. ‘They are Haddad militiamen. Usually they bring the people back after interrogation, but not always. Sometimes the people do not return.’ Then an Israeli officer ordered me to leave. Why couldn’t the prisoners talk to me? I asked. ‘They can talk if they want,’ he replied. ‘But they have nothing to say.’ All the Israelis knew what had happened inside the camps. The smell of the corpses was now overpowering. Outside, a Phalangist jeep with the words ‘Military Police’ painted on it - if so exotic an institution could be associated with this gang of murderers - drove by. A few television crews had turned up. One filmed the Lebanese Christian militiamen outside the Cité Sportive. He also filmed a woman pleading to an Israeli army colonel called ‘Yahya’ for the release of her husband. The colonel has now been positively identified by The Independent. Today, he is a general in the Israeli army. Along the main road opposite the stadium there was a line of Israeli Merkava tanks, their crews sitting on the turrets, smoking, watching the men being led from the stadium in ones or twos, some being set free, others being led away by Shin Beth men or by Lebanese men in drab khaki overalls. All these soldiers knew what had happened inside the camps.
How about behaving like a human being and defending the Jewish people properly, if that's what you are doing Personally, I believe you are using the Jewish People top defend fascism and mass murder Jim Carroll