No, sorry Sen, I understand what you are on about but there are times when butter wouldn't melt in their mouth people get so dishonestly offensive that they deserve any abuse they get. If I was to say to you that you were talking bollocks then it may be insulting or offensive but, to my mind, far more honest than the sneaky way others may ever so politely insult your intelligence. In my opinion of course! And not that you would ever talk bollocks either (except in your political preference of course) :-)