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Thread #164041   Message #3922428
Posted By: Jim Carroll
05-May-18 - 09:01 PM
Thread Name: BS: Israel's Sharpville
Subject: RE: BS: Israel's Sharpville
"No, JC. You are wrong. You make accusations based only on your own lies about others."
The relevant postings have been put up several times - dated and in full over the last few weeks - you contributed to that thread
Robomatic said he didn't understand it so I put it up again
These are the postings again

Subject: RE: BS: Ireland-What happened?

Keith was denying a family story I once heard of British MPs describing the news leaking from Germany of the exterminations as “Lies of whingeing Yids” - Keith denied the story as "illogical" - which was bad enough
I went on to describe the fascist group formed by MPs, members of the House of Lords and British businessmen led by Archibald Maule Ramsey

From: Jim Carroll - PM
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 11:22 AM
I wrote
“Try this for size
http://www.rense.com/ufo6/nazisym.htm
Quote from article about British wartime fascism
“..... The Red Book is the membership list of the Right Club, a secret organisation founded in May 1939 by Captain Archibald Ramsay MP. Unlike the populist British Union of Fascists lead by the charismatic Sir Oswald Mosley, the Right Club was exclusive.
Its members were aristocrats and Members of Parliament, academics, civil servants, clerics and rich dilettantes. Some of the men had distinguished themselves in the 1914-18 war and saw themselves as patriots. But they were also virulent racists who supported Hitler's treatment of Germany's Jewish population. Many were Nazi sympathisers. From King Edward VIII downwards, there was a widespread view that only a powerful Germany could hold back the threat of Bolshevism, and that Britain should be supporting Hitler, not preparing to attack him.
......But if the badge seems mildly comic now, the vehemence with which these establishment figures hated Jews was chilling. A "hymn" to the tune of "Land of Hope and Glory", entered in the book in Ramsay's handwriting and in a printed version for public distribution, reads: “

Hymn 1939
Land of dope and Jewry,
Land that once was free,
All the Jew boys praise thee
While they plunder thee.

Poorer still and poorer
Grow the trueborn sons,
Faster still and faster
They're sent to feed the guns.

Land of Jewish finance,
Fooled by Jewish lies,
In press and books and movies
While our birthright dies.

Longer still and longer
Is the rope they get
But, by the God of battles
T'will serve to hang them yet.



Keith responded
Subject: RE: BS: Ireland-What happened?
From: Keith A of Hertford - PM
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 12:57 PM
Silly songs don't count, or I could post "Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Mr Hitler" as proof to the contrary!

Keith later confirmed his opinion that the poem was an "unimportant silly song"
Subject: RE: BS: Ireland-What happened?
From: Keith A of Hertford - PM
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 01:16 PM
More dishonesty.
I did not mention "Dad's Army" at all!!
I merely offered an anti Fascist song to match your fascist one, making the point that finding a song is not evidence.

I asked you, Robomatic and Bobad to acknowledge it - you and Bobad ignored my request - Robo claimed not to understand it.

You have accused me of lying several times yet have yet to come up with a single example
You have accused me again and now you have the evidence that I have not lied in front of you
I don't expect either an apology nor a withdrawal of your accusation - you don't seem to go in for that sort of thing
I await with some interest your reaction to Keith's antisemitism with some interest
"Ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity -"
So you accuse half the population of demanding a crime against humanity and the Israeli Government of responding to that demand
I have never at any time supported any call for ethnic cleansing (show where I have) - what I have said is that the Israeli regime's Implicating the Jewish People in their crimes by hiding behind the accusation of "antisemitism" to excuse them is the cause of the sharp rise in antisemitism in the world today - Israel is blaming the Jews for what they are doing and many are taking their word for it.
Pease stop making things up - you really are not very good at it
Jim Carroll