"Are the insults personal enough yet to warrant the closing of this toxic thread?"
I've finished with this feller Baccie - I think my point has been made
This was about gun crime (among other things) and if the example I gave of that can lead a suggestion that the victim of one of those gun crimes got what he deserved for being a member of a "anachronistic" cultural group and then lead to a vicious racist attack on that group, it seems to me that the future of any discussions are prone to being used by extremists to express their extremism
I aplogise for my part in what has happened - I attempted to illustrate my belief that crimes of violence are largely due to the ability to obtain weapons and the mindset that this establishes.
I will not continue with this here, but I do intend to take it elsewhere
Jim Carroll