Unfortunately, Bruce, when people like me present you with facts, and explain to you how other countries mange very well without the population being armed to the teeth, you completely ignore those facts, preferring to believe your own irrational, paranoid, fear-driven gun-nut theories.

So the best advice I can offer Steve, McG, and anyone else who is considering debating the lunacy of US Gun-Culture with you is, "Don't waste your time and effort - the lights might be on, but no-one's home at Bruce's pad".