I don't "share beliefs" because my science is never, ever, predicated on belief, and I am not taking a narrow view about the answer to "things" because I'm not concerning myself at all with answers to things. I AM concerning myself with the fact that there are people of faith who think they can reconcile their faith with science by distorting the science. It's taken science two hundred years to arrive at, agonise over, finesse and refine evolutionary theory, so much so that it's one of the crowning glories of human scientific endeavour. So you attempt to harmonise it with your faith by suggesting (without a shred of evidence to support you) that God runs evolution or has inputs, such as "creating" human beings? Can't you see how silly and facile that is? It's not me taking a narrow view, Joe, it's you narrowing down and degrading the work of thousands of evolutionary biologists who, with respect, know a lot more about the science than you do... When I say that the essence of evolution is that there can be no conscious directional driving force or "intelligence" of any kind behind it, I'm not shutting you out. I'm just doing the science.