I have always respected what you are trying to do Al, but you really are asking a lot
None us us are skilled debaters, but most people bring something to these discussions, if it's only passion for the subject
I found the closure of the last thread unnecessary, but that's my opinion - I accept part of the blame for once more becoming exasperated over something that is very much a part of my life at present - not an academic subject but a part of day-to-day living
I've said we need to clean up our own act rather than rely on the mods to do it for us - so far, we've failed to do so
I have little doubt that this thread, if it is allowed to continue, will eventually degenerate into a blame-game and go the way of all the others
Jim