Chiff and Fipple once had a very argumentative below-the-line part, full of right-wing bolshie yanks and pro-Israel warmongering types, etc., good fun but it was abruptly demolished without trace. The place has been heading into the sunset slowly for a few years. The Gaughan forum has gone rudderless, especially since Dick got sick, and the few people left posting are totally unrepresentative of what the place used to be like. A couple of others I was on just died the death (without my help, I hasten to add). To some extent this one has bucked the trend for such forums to go into decline. We all love it really!