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Thread #164265   Message #3930279
Posted By: Steve Davidson-Amazing Stories
11-Jun-18 - 09:39 AM
Thread Name: BS: the many lives of Amazing Stories sci-fi
Subject: RE: BS: the many lives of Amazing Stories sci-fi
wow. I was multi-paragraphs in and then lost everything.

I hate recaps, but -

The magazine, founded in 1926 by Hugo Gernsback, defined the SF genre.
It was published continuously from 1926 until 1995; resurrected in 98, 04 and again in '12 by me.

I have licensed NBC to use the name for a re-do of the Spielberg show of the same name, which is being produced by Apple Inc (Spielberg executive producing). The deal was signed in 2015 (to give you some idea how long these things take); last year I terminated the agreement over breach of contract: NBC/Apple announced their deal and I went on the online warpath, asking how NBC could sell something they didn't own. About four hours after that, my attorney got a call, asking him to shut me up and informing him that certain companies and individuals were very upset.
We subsequently re-negotiated the licensing deal.

Now, to respond to some previous statements:

Keberoxu: "that Europe was already publishing periodicals with
science fiction in them, while the US had yet to catch up. "

Yes and no. The genre did not exist as a "thing" until the publication of Gernsback's first editorial in Amazing, where he defined the new genre. Other magazines, both in the US and abroad didn't publish SF (wasn't so sech thang), they published macabre, gothing, scientific romances and other forms of "proto" SF; nor were any of those prior publications devoted entirely to the new genre. I refer anyone interested to Mike Ashley and Gary Westfahls works on the subject for more detail.

"Spielberg served out his NBC contract, then moved on.
"Amazing Stories" was revived, as a television show,
in more recent years. Was it NBC that had that last version?
Also a brief engagement."

The 1983-1985 TV show is the only incarnation, so far, of that vehicle. There was a Japanese film made under license (never released in North America) and the feature film Batteries Not Included was originally to have been a TV show episode.

Donuel: "The evil of Scientology has roots in the author L Ron Hubbard writing hundreds of Amazing stories. nuff said"

Hubbard was primarily published in Astounding Stories of Super Science (later Astounding Stories, Astounding Science Fiction and now Analog); Campbell, the editor, championed Dianetics in some of his editorials and a handful of authors went along.

Amazing's claim to infamy is the "shaver mysteries", claimed to be "true life stories", written by a schizophrenic who believed there were inimical, brain controlling robots living in caverns in the Eartth. Ray Palmer (editor of the first SF fanzine) championed that and other woo woo like UFOs (as in "they come to steal our womenz"); the SF community largely abandoned the magazine during this period, although it was the publication's second most successful financial period. (Hint: it wasn't SF fans who were spending the quarters.)

I understand it's pretty easy to confuse scientology woo-woo with shaver mystery woo-woo, but they are two distinctly different woo-woos.

Keberoxu: "Do you guys know what this is all about?
Because I find it a bit confusing.
Back issues, current issue ...
but NOT, it appears to me, in stock at any bookstore.
What's going on here?"

Those are electronic versions of the few issues we have released so far, free for the reading (as is the entire website).

We will NOT be selling this magazine through traditional venues, and deliberately so. Retailers take a cut, distributors take a cut - and sharing - if we want to have a quality publication and pay professional rates (which we do) is not in the cards.

We have alternate means of distribution (for example, giving everyone attending this year's Worldcon a FREE copy) and while selling through Amazon or B&N would definitly provide us some exposure, we have the books for that (Search "Amazing Stories" and you'll find "The Best of Amazing Stories 1926, 27, 28, 29....: please note that there are infringers out there as well, so look for "authorized edition" with the 'R' trademark symbol...and yes, we're doing our best to deal with the infringement)

You can purchase a print or electronic subscription through the website. ALL magazine content will also eventually be available through the website, for FREE. (Did I mention that membership in the website is FREE? Did I also mention that we only take the bare minimum info AND have an absolute policy against re-selling user date?)

Ebarnacle: "My uncle once did an illustration for Gernsback--who stiffed him."

He's in good company; Gernsback also "stiffed" Donald Wollheim AND H. G. Wells. The latter may very well have been miscommunication over whether payment was in pounds sterling or american dollars; the resolution was, Wells accepted the deal.
By way of additional explanation, there's good reason to believe that Gernsback was on the Aspberger's Spectrum and "money" was something he didn't really understand or care about (which probably contributed to the bankruptcy). For an interesting take on this, read Steve Silberman's "Neurotribes", or at least the chapter devoted to Aspberger's and the Science Fiction Fan Community.

Sorry about your uncle getting stiffed.

Joe Offer: "Scientology Founder L.Ron Hubbard was a pretty good science fiction writer in his day, and I believe some of his stories were published in Amazing Stories. The author list for Amazing Stories reads like a Who's Who of science fiction writing."

Well, this (incomplete) bibliography shows no Amazing Stories credits. My memory says he never appeared in Amazing under the Hubbard name and the bit of checking I've done so far seems to be confirming that.

So, go ahead and hang Shaver around Amazing's neck, but not Scientology's. :)

The website can be found at www.amazingstories.com (and www.amazingstoriesmag.com) and I'm happy to answer questions both about the history of the magazine and our on-going plans for it.