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Thread #140533   Message #3930768
Posted By: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
13-Jun-18 - 11:31 PM
Thread Name: New evidence for 'shanty' origins?
Subject: RE: New evidence for 'shanty' origins?
Forgot the constant reminder:

“New”

Naval architecture/science: The U.S. Navy galleys rowed little different from their Phoenician forebears. The Iliad, Odyssey, & Aeneid are Martial's sailors. Old Testament “trampling out the vintage…” ditto.

Etymology: The ancient Greek word for 'shanty-song' was “celeusma” and the modern word is “celeusma.” The English word shanty/chantey/chanty picks up c.1800.

It's vernacular not the application. Salve Regina, arguably the greatest nautical work song in the history of Western culture, is not a shanty, it's a celeusma.

That's folk for ya!