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Thread #164332   Message #3930872
Posted By: Jim Carroll
14-Jun-18 - 12:57 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Child Ballads in Ireland
Subject: RE: Origins: Child Ballads in Ireland
"I was a bit too eager to help, I guess."
Both you and Brian have almost brought this project to fruition -I really am grateful
It also prompted me to pull down a book I have hardly looked at since we were given a copy - Eddie's book is superb
I don't think it is related to 'The Brown Girl' - I can't find anything on Roud that suggests that.

I'll probably go with the fragments of 'Lord Thomas' that we recorded - I remember being so frustrated at nearly getting it from singer after singer who "couldn't remember any more of it"
One singer in North Clare told us he heard it from a "Traveller woman called Mrs Stotered" (stotered means "drunk" around here)
Her real name was Sherlock and she a famous for her big ballads
She game our singer, Martin Howley a song she called 'The Old Armchair' - the only version of 'Fair Margaret and Sweet William' (Child 74) ever to turn up in Ireland
It Began, "Knight William was sitting on his old armchair"

Mrs Maguire's song is definitely the one I was looking for - she was remarkable woman for her small repertoire of songs - the Ballad Geordie, turns up as 'The Jersey' nad there's a nice version of 'The Cherry Tree Carol', and a version of 'The Lion's Den'
There is noo information about her and, as with all these singers, you can't be sure where they came from
She is listed as 'Belfast' but that is almost certainly where she was recorded.
We're attending the launch of a double C.D. of Robert Cinnamond songs later this year - he was listed as 'Belfast' but that is not where he was from.
Thanks for the text - much appreciated
Best
Jim