I fully understand that too, Raedwulf, but if the purpose is to draw attention to something, why is it such a ridiculous process? These are grown men We are talking about, in a position to make or ruin the entire country. Who appointed Chope to be in charge of all such bills? It is simply a ludicrous situation and regardless of anyones intentions the management of our lives should be open and honest, not governed by antiquated procedures and silly games of guess what I am really after!