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Posted By: GUEST
22-Jun-18 - 04:55 AM
Thread Name: Origins: Child Ballads in Ireland
Subject: RE: Origins: Child Ballads in Ireland
It's me, Kevin. (I can't post when I add my name, I don't know why)

- To Richie:

The text from Mary Stewart Robertson reminds me of Jock White's version, another very full text:
http://www.springthyme.co.uk/ballads/balladtexts/10_TwaSisters_2.shtml

A recording is available on "Hamish Henderson Collects, Volume 2" Kyloe 110:
http://www.mustrad.org.uk/reviews/hamish2.htm

See also Betsy Whyte's version, from the same family tradition:
http://tobarandualchais.co.uk/en/fullrecord/82953/23

But these are Scottish, not Irish variants.

- To Jim Carroll:

I have looked through Bronson's "Traditional Tunes of the Child Ballads, Vol. IV" and noticed that John Reilly's text of "The Well Below The Valley-O" in the book is more complete than the text as he sings it in the recording on "The Bonny Green Tree" LP.

Is there a second sound recording of John Reilly singing this song that is more complete than the well known one?

Here's the full text as given in Bronson:

A gentleman he was passing by.
He axed a drink as he got dry
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows the lily O
Right among the bushes O.

My cup it is in overflow
And if I do stoop I may fall in
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows the lily O
Right among the bushes O.

Well if your true love was passing by
You'd fill him a drink if he got dry
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

She swore by grass and swore by corn
That her true love was never born.
I say, fair maiden, you've swore in wrong
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

Well if you're a man of that noble fame
You'll tell to me the father o' them
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

Two o' them by your father dear
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

Two more o' them came by your uncle Dan
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

Another one by your brother John
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

Well if you're a man of the noble fame
You'll tell to me what happened then
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

There was two o' them buried by the kitchen fire
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc."

Two more o' them buried by the stable door
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

The other was buried by the well
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

Well if you're a man of the noble fame
You'll tell to me what will happen mysel'
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

You'll be seven long years a-ringin' a bell
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

You'll be seven more a-portin' in Hell
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows, etc.

I'll be seven long years a-ringin' the bell
But the Lord above might save my soul
From portin' in Hell
At the well below the valley O.
Green grows the lily O
Right among the bushes O.

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Here's the shorter text from "The Bonny Green Tree":

For a gentleman was passin' by
He axed a drink as he got dry
At the well below below the valley-o
Green grows the lilies-o right among the bushes-o

My cup it is in overflow
An' if I do stoop I may fall in
At the well below below the valley-o
Green grows the lilies-o right among the bushes-o

Well if your true love was passin' by
You'd fill him a drink if he got dry
At the well below below the valley-o
Green grows the lilies-o right among the bushes-o

Well if you're a man of noble fame
You'll tell to me the father o' them
At the well below below the valley-o
Green grows the lilies-o right among the bushes-o

Two of them came by your uncle Dan
At the well below below the valley-o
Green grows the lilies-o right among the bushes-o

Another one by your brother John
At the well below below the valley-o
Green grows the lilies-o right among the bushes-o

Well if you're a man of a noble 'steem
You'll tell to me what'll happen mysel'
At the well below below the valley-o
Green grows the lilies-o right among the bushes-o

You'll be seven year a-ringin' a bell
At the well below the valley
Green grows the lilies-o all amongst the bushes

You'll be seven more a-portin' in Hell
At the well below the valley
Green grows the lilies-o all amongst the bushes

I'll be seven long years a-ringing a bell
But the Lord above may save my soul
From portin' in Hell
At the well below the valley
Green grows the lilies-o all amongst the bushes