I did say "largely disappeared" Pseu
I used to go to pubs in Manchester where they had a pianist and one along the Stretford Road had an amateur night where the Guvnor would pay a prize (£5 I think) for the best performance
I was a regular at that one, but I never tried my hand - you'd be shouted off the stage if you embarked on Barbara Allen or Van Dieman's Land
These were more passively received entertainments' rather than song-swapping and reminiscing with people you knew
Regading definition, if we are going to communicate one with the other we need to do so using the same language
I believe it is a failure to do that that sent the folk scene spiraling down in flames in the 1980s
Jim