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Thread #162855   Message #3939358
Posted By: Steve Shaw
25-Jul-18 - 10:17 AM
Thread Name: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
Tommyrot. First, of course no-one can precisely quantify the effects on the final result of the various issues that arose during the referendum campaign. But only a clown with his head in the sand would deny that immigration was either at the top or very close to the top of the list of crucial factors that swung the vote. All through the campaign we had talk of foreigners taking our jobs, driving down wages, of our taking back control of our borders, of immigration out of control, of the NHS overwhelmed, and then that Farage poster, not least. The vote was closer than 52-48 and you're trying to tell us that, without the immigration issue constantly to the fore, remain wouldn't have won handsomely?

As for your tired old ever-closer union guff, trotted tiredly out yet again, it's a complete illusion. Every state in the EU wants to keep its own distinct national identity. The vast majority of domestic laws in EU countries have nothing to do with the EU. Larger states such as the UK have the power of veto over any suggested fundamental political changes. Almost all our laws in this country, and the overwhelming bulk of our GDP, are our own sovereign business and cannot be touched by the EU and that can't be changed if we say no. For a change, why don't you instead condemn the attacks on parliamentary sovereignty by Theresa May who had to be taken to court to be forced to allow parliament a say on Article 50, and whose every major action is done in the interests of your party instead of that of the country?