Thanks, DMcG. It's refreshing to have a chap around who will actually read something I've posted without an initial agenda. But I'm afraid I'm sticking with my whens, not ifs. Put it down to my eternal sense of foreboding and pessimism about the insane path this country is being led down. And Nigel, the only confusion around here is being endured by people who think they can trust a single word that Rees-Mogg utters. And I could point out to you yet again that Project Fear was led by a Tory. One of your bedfellows. And he was especially strident about, as you say, the immediate hazards of leaving. The Tory rump left behind when he and other fellow crazies packed up politics (aka abandoned the sinking ship) are now leading us down that insane path. Fills you with hope, eh?