me too - however does anyone think it may be an idea to run a thread on post brexit life in the uk? i don't mean concerning the exact meaning of the length of JRM's prophecies, or tired old arguments about 'immigrants' and wages or how useless the current crop of top politicians are. i mean we are all going to have to live with this mess however it turns out. personally i will still go to work with plenty of ukip types who like trump; working for vulnerable people reliant on an increasingly precarious benefits system. my children work in estonia, london, leeds, italy and glasgow. 3 of their partners could be described as having potential difficulties to come about where they will be allowed to live -2 of them are looking for a new citizenship, so the question is very real to us. yet....though of course i care and find it very hard to switch off reading the news about the latest crimes of the capitalists or the arcane minutiae of this discussion .....in a sense i don't really care about all these divisions and nonsense in our society.
for example, i am thoroughly sick of the 'coming over here taking our jobs' shite...and the inevitable 'not a racist but..' all of us of a certain age were brought up on crap 70s sitcoms and with racist assumptions and all of us learned what nonsense it was and at least tried to move on. now we have a new set of hatemongers in powerful positions and they are re-legitimising the idiotic language and politics of division.

sorry i'm rambling here - anyway, anyone fancy a conversation that does not recognize borders or nationalities and is concerned how we get along with each other in 3-5 years time? i'm increasingly finding that we have a sad split between people who are open to positive ideas or just closed to their own narrow prejudices and political party interests. maybe i'm the only one so i won't start a new thread concerning how an old hippy should best use his remaining years in these fractious times - but if someone else wants to open it up that's great. carry on and i'll join in with anyone who wants to be part of the solution