Talking about the formal theory of rhetoric like ad hominem attacks is all very well, but remember we are talking about life after Brexit. To that end, what are people's thoughts on Operation Brock fears in Kent? They only arise if we have a no deal {or we have a deal but there is some other border issue), and the duration is then dependent on how quickly we can get other mechanisms in place. The Council, who are the ones who have to implement it, after all, fear it might take years to resolve. Have our leavers anything to offer apart from hope should we have the no-deal that Nigel says is now looking more attractive than before?