Hi,

TY Mick and Steve, "pie some" is probably "poison" and I'll make the corrections to my version above,

I have this to report on the two Broadwood versions from Cumbria titled "King Henry My Son." According to "Folk song in Cumbria" by S. Allan, 2017, "Robert Lattimer (1825-1901) and other members of his family seem to be key 'tradition bearers', in carrying forward into the twentieth century folk songs current in Carlisle in the nineteenth century." This is the exact birth date I had guessed and knew he had died before his version was published in 1907. Miss M. B. Lattimer, the transcriber of the 1907 JFSS version is Robert's younger sister (no date on her birth yet). Robert's version was learned by organist Sydney Nicholson and communicated to Miss Lattimer. I've dated this version c. 1840 since it was learned by Robert when he was a boy. The 1908 version is also given by Miss Lattimer but was taken from another source before 1868. Later, Miss Lattimer received addition text from the informant, Margaret Scott. However, the melody is the same for both. Since they are local versions, both informants could have sung the same melody but it's more likely that Lattimer's melody was used twice. Broadwood did not provide this source information.

Motherwell gives a Scottish version about 1827 titled "King Henry My Son." which is Child C,

Richie