I threw a small burris scope on my 45-70. 100 yards the center of the bullseye is cut out. Buffalo bore ammo. My shoulder is all black and blue even with the gel pads. Magnum loads in that beast is not fun. However i am now ready for moose or anything else that get in the way. The biggest problem is bears if you do get a moose. It’s like ringing the dinner bell for brown bears so some firepower is needed. Last year most all were under 100 yards. I feel really good up to 150 as it drops like a rock any further