well to be honest, i think there are those of us who have done business in Europe and know the actuality of the EU, and those who are repelled by the racism of the EDL.

I sympathise with both points of view.

I've stopped responding to all the shit calling me a narrow minded little Englander racist on facebook.

I think rational debate went out of the window a long time ago. The EU isn't a bad idea, but its run by crooks. Why wouldn't it be, they're politicians. As Dennis Skinner says, at least outside the EU, we'll only have our own lot of crooks to deal with.

But like I say, it won't happen. There'll be some sort of flummery to appease the referendum voters, but the fix is in. Theresa May did not and does not believe in Brexit. Why would she, tory constituencies never felt the chill winds. Tories Thatcher, Major, Cameron, Blair weren't daft - they took care of voters they needed. Blair wasn't a tory - but he needed the marginal seats.

To compare an economy like Ireland, horse racing and dancing at the crossroads, with an economy of England is daft. Paul MacCartney could afford to buy everyone in Ireland a drink and an ice cream. If he had to buy everyone in England a drink, he'd keep his wallet in his pocket.