Thanks, Vic Smith, for the links to the Lloyd interviews. Very interesting reading. It's hard to believe he was speaking 44 and 48 years ago**

For me his answer including "If one's dealing with a thing on any plane of scholarship, then it's necessary to be as precise as one can. In the past, I've certainly not been precise enough." addresses the (mainly later?) criticism well enough.

When taking about the relationship between pop (and the variants he notes), folk song and art music he comes over as being extremely broad minded. Interesting comment about the exclusive blokes with 'spiky titles'.

I don't see any significant inconsistancy between his view and Roud's conclusions. There is just the difficulty of identifying which in the body of songs originated amongst 'the folk'.

I see that he includes the lowest levels of management, mine deputy George Purdon, in 'the folk'.

** Said in 1970 the bit about computers is almost prophetic.