Jim - I could list at least the names of at least 20 performers under the age of 30 that I have seen at Swinton and other clubs that I have attended but what would be the point? You will not have heard of any of them and accuse me of making it up. I could also list the tour dates of people like Jim Moray, which include folk clubs, but again you would brush it off as either 'invisible' or not folk. There is no point discussing it as we will never agree.