The figures given were for England only and your cursory examination seems to have missed that point.

I find it quite telling that you will address so much to someone who's opinions you are not interested in and you are not interested in swaying. I can only draw the conclusion that if your interests do not lie in those areas they can only be in just arguing for arguments sake.

Anyhow, Joe has already said we need to keep to the point. I am happy to do so. Will you reciprocate and provide us with any evidence, other than anecdotal, that the folk scene in England is in the mess you are suggesting or can we assume that this is purely your opinion?