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Thread #164834   Message #3949160
Posted By: Big Al Whittle
09-Sep-18 - 06:09 AM
Thread Name: BS: Let's reclaim the centre ground!
Subject: RE: BS: Let's reclaim the centre ground!
Jim - I respect you a great deal.

You always seem to me to see things with a sort of moral squint though. And whilst you couldn't start a fight in an empty house, I sometimes think of what my old sociology studies told me - three men living on island would constitute a society. And I think to myself - if Jim was one of those men, it would be a divided society.

I remember 1970 when Heath won the election. The silly cunt had promised the Yanks to send our troops over to Vietnam in support of our greatest ally. Luckily he didn't get his way over that.

That year though, they totalled up the votes and Labour had actually got more votes than the tories. But because of the first past the post system   The tories got to run the government. three day weeks. The city of Birmingham closed down four days a week. Brilliant! But nobody bitched about it. We had stuck to the rules had an election by the agreed democratic method and everybody just got on with it, whatever the fuck. That's how law abding societies conduct themselves.

Compare and contrast with the Brexit business. Your arguments failed to impress - over a million people more thought you were mistaken in your views. Many of them, like Dennis (the beast of Bolsover) who represnnted towns that had been well and truly fucked over by the EU.

And yet you say they are villains. No other explanation. Corbyn's critics - villains the lot of them.


And I say to you. All these people are not villains. They merely have a different view of socialism and its moral imperatives than you do. And if you wish to beat the tories at any point in the forseeable future - accomodate, compromise, reconcililiate,

The tory party carries its own self destruct button. It is in the hands of greedy capitalists and occasionally, people get pissed off with being robbed and vote Labour.

The cheap membership deal has let in the trots. The ones who let in Thatcher by not allowing Callaghan to make a single uninterrupted campaign speech. They have nothing but contempt for the party we have voted all our lives for. Corbyn dun that. That's been his major screw up, and it will take a strong determined leader to make us electable again.

Boris's shagging schedule will not win this next election for us. Sadly. if that's all it took.....