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Thread #164868   Message #3950785
Posted By: robomatic
15-Sep-18 - 11:10 PM
Thread Name: BS: Kaiser's Holocaust
Subject: RE: BS: Kaiser's Holocaust
You have shown no more knowledge of Chima than you have of Russia - both McCarthyite caricatures of the reality
Boh countries won their system of government by popular revolutions so the idea that you can enslave a revolutionary people id obviously nonsens
Both countries have health services far in advance of most counties - certainly in advance of the united states where they feel for you check-book before they feel your pulse
The same with the education systems - free at source and highly developed - you don't educate slaves as The United States taught us before their Civil war.
I am no admirer of Mao and I detest what Stalin did to the people's revolution, but in both cases the Parties modernised semi feudal states and made them economic world contenders in amazingly short times - over the same period they totally outstripped most of the ex-colonies.
I never got to visit China, thou I would dearly have loved to do so
I travelled through Russia twenty years after the war and was staggered at the progress I witnessed in cities like Moscow, Leningrad and Minsk - all devastated by the war - In Leningrad it was rare to see a man aged over forty who hadn't lost a limb or had been maimed in some way during the Siege
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Both those countries, USSR and Mao's China had in common, along with Nazi Germany, that your thoughts were controlled, and if you went for freedom of thought, you would get killed. I visited the Soviet Union maybe a little after your period. I noticed that everyone's teeth had been fixed. Mighty impressive, if they didn't have real ivories, they had what looked like stainless steel in there.
Even in America we keep ALL the cattle healthy.

As for China, I didn't get over there, but I'll never forget a reporter showing a bookstore in China. There was only one book available. Even in Russia you had a broad spectrum of approved books, and they were inexpensive.

As for Popular Revolution, I'm wondering if you are as ignorant as you post or are simply simplifying the historical facts in order to make your preexisting world view palatable. Russia had a PAIR of revolutions in 1917, one in February, installing for all intents and purposes a weak democratic government, and one in October (old calendar) which put Lenin in as a dictator of a one-party state. (Kind of parallel to what happened in 1989 to the present reality of one-man control). The public were about as in control of what went on as the fleas on the back of a cur. China is an entirely different country, people, culture, etc. But it sure has not been popularly run. And both countries had internal deaths in the tens of millions, on the way to that wonderful economic progress that means so much to you.