Stanron, there is no interpretation of my words that leads to the conclusion that no one told the truth. I am simply saying that some people told some lies some of the time. The fact that you seem to interpret this as "no one told the truth" is not my problem. There was plenty of truth told by both sides but it is the lies that seem to have swung the issue.

Now, rather than get bogged down in the past, do we have any forecasts of a rosy future for us all yet?