I also think DMG's post of 1.55 am was excellent. I would quite like some intelligent discussion of the options, but it seems clear that we are not going to get that via Ians or Stanron.

The question on the referendum said

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

The papers available to the public at the time stated that there would be a lengthy process of negotiation following a decision to leave, with the UK having lost the right to influence EU decisions. The 'treaties' would cease to apply to us either when withdrawal was agreed or when two years were up.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/503908/54538_EU_Series_No2_Accessible.pdf

It may be the case that people who voted 'leave' did so for various reasons included the spurious arguments about vacuum cleaners I remember hearing discussed even on Radio 4, and Borish Johnson's nonsense about bendy bananas, but we cannot know.

On the topic of EU people coming to live in the UK, EU people from the Irish Republic have rights agreed by early instruments to come and live here and it seems that this will continue. Not sure how many qualified doctors are among them.

Our GP practice cannot recruit enough GPs. This is a scandal. Anybody who imagined that a Tory government, some of whose members are ideologically opposed to the very idea of the NHS, wanting to do trade deals with the USA whose big businesses have been wanting to get their teeth into our health service for a long time, and many of whom are ideologically opposed to national health services (look at how they claimed Obama's health care actually KILLED people) wants their heads looking at. But I met people who thought that government spending on local stuff like street cleaning would improve after Brexit because we would not be sending money to the EU. These clowns had no doubt never heard of 'austerity', or the food banks which are now needed to make up for the total mess of benefit changes. They were no doubt aware of the Tory habit of cutting taxes for the rich and cutting state support for the jobless and the working poor. And the rest of us will be paying the price for their stupidity.


Here endeth the rant.