Hello to the original poster. Neither song is familiar to me right off, but many of us are good at searching for songs if we have enough clues.
I've heard a number of bread and butter songs, including the one Gurney mentions. Please tell us all that you can recall of these songs. It may lead us all to the songs you seek. Even if we don't find the right songs, we'll have fun looking.
Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor

Gurney's song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-SsORzfGb8